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	* Sean - 1-2lbs/bbl dry hop		* Sean - 1-2lbs/bbl dry hop
	* Ben - if they don’t dry hop twice then they felt like lots of hops don’t matter. Low dry hop amounts for each charge. Citra is always good for the second or late hop, for the top notes		* Ben - if they don’t dry hop twice then they felt like lots of hops don’t matter. Low dry hop amounts for each charge. [[Citra]] is always good for the second or late hop, for the top notes
	* Firestone - el dorado is good “base” hop, NZ Is good for top note		* Firestone - [[El Dorado\|el dorado]] is good “base” hop, NZ Is good for top note

	Ben- doesn’t recirculate cause it picks up too many undesirables		Ben- doesn’t recirculate cause it picks up too many undesirables
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	WCIPA panel w/breakside (B) Firestone walker (F) and Lawson’s (L) hosted by Russian River (R) '''CBB''' '''309'''		WCIPA panel w/breakside (B) Firestone walker (F) and Lawson’s (L) hosted by Russian River (R) '''CBB''' '''309'''

	B- '''Galaxy''' needs a very short contact time (48 hours or left)		B- '''[[Galaxy]]''' needs a very short contact time (48 hours or left)

	B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5		B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5
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	Mid boil - chinook, strata, have nice complicated bitterness, Warrior has good citrus piney bitterness		Mid boil - [[Chinook\|chinook]], [[Strata\|strata]], have nice complicated bitterness, [[Warrior]] has good citrus piney bitterness

	Hazies he does 5-10 IBUS beginning of boil cause it helps hops shine		Hazies he does 5-10 IBUS beginning of boil cause it helps hops shine

	Idaho 7 and galaxy play well together, especially with mosaic. Too much Idaho 7 can be have a harsh bitterness		[[Idaho 7]] and galaxy play well together, especially with [[Mosaic\|mosaic]]. Too much Idaho 7 can be have a harsh bitterness

	W.pool do a 3:1 ratio citra to Idaho		W.pool do a 3:1 ratio citra to Idaho
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	Hard to be a Wizard		Hard to be a Wizard

	* 65-70% '''Simcoe'''		* 65-70% '''[[Simcoe]]'''
	* round out with '''Idaho 7'''		* round out with '''Idaho 7'''
	* touch of '''chinoook'''		* touch of '''chinoook'''
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	'''NZ Hops'''		'''NZ Hops'''

	Uses Whirlpool for lower alpha ones ('''moutere, kohatu''' work well in whirlpool)		Uses Whirlpool for lower alpha ones ('''[[Moutere\|moutere]], kohatu''' work well in whirlpool)

	Dry hop with higher alpha		Dry hop with higher alpha

NomoAdmin at 05:50, 11 September 2025

2025-09-11T05:50:58Z

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	== ~~'''~~CBB 309 - Breakside, Firestone Walker, Lawson- west coast ipa~~'''~~ ==		== CBB 309 - Breakside, Firestone Walker, Lawson- west coast ipa ==
	Matt - Firestone, Sean - Lawsons, Ben - Breakside		Matt - Firestone, Sean - Lawsons, Ben - Breakside

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	=== when hop ===		=== when hop ===

	* Matt - cryo for mid-ferm, sometimes t90 is too gritty for mid term		* Matt - cryo for mid-ferm, sometimes t90 is too gritty for mid term
	* Sean - post fermentation		* Sean - post fermentation
	* Ben - they leave open during dry hop to get hop creep finished early		* Ben - they leave open during dry hop to get hop creep finished early

	=== dosage ===		=== dosage ===

	* Sean - 1-2lbs/bbl dry hop		* Sean - 1-2lbs/bbl dry hop
	* Ben - if they don’t dry hop twice then they felt like lots of hops don’t matter. Low dry hop amounts for each charge. Citra is always good for the second or late hop, for the top notes		* Ben - if they don’t dry hop twice then they felt like lots of hops don’t matter. Low dry hop amounts for each charge. Citra is always good for the second or late hop, for the top notes
	* Firestone - el dorado is good “base” hop, NZ Is good for top note		* Firestone - el dorado is good “base” hop, NZ Is good for top note

	Ben- doesn’t recirculate cause it picks up too many undesirables		Ben- doesn’t recirculate cause it picks up too many undesirables

	== ~~'''~~286 - WCIPA now!~~'''~~ ==		== 286 - WCIPA now! ==

	Kelsey - N.Park, Vinnie - R. River, Evan- Green ~~cheek~~		Kelsey - '''N.Park''', Vinnie - '''R. River''', Evan- '''Green Cheek'''

	=== Malt ===		=== Malt ===
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	** The next day they put 15psi on the tank, let sit for 1 hour, then blow if off again, then they check from the top at 99% of the hops are in.		** The next day they put 15psi on the tank, let sit for 1 hour, then blow if off again, then they check from the top at 99% of the hops are in.

	== '''~~Burlington Beer~~''' ==		*
	'''~~CBB 360~~'''
			== WCIPA roundtable ==
			WCIPA panel w/breakside (B) Firestone walker (F) and Lawson’s (L) hosted by Russian River (R) '''CBB''' '''309'''

			B- '''Galaxy''' needs a very short contact time (48 hours or left)

			B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5

			== Podcasts ==

			=== Green bench, Burial, Russian River ===
			CBB 385

			Flowables 1kg for 15bbl. 1/2 oz to oz replaces 1lb/bbl dry hop. Purge the bottle after

			Russian River—mixes Pilsner and 2-row.. or 2-row and wheat. Just Pilsner leaves it too flat (8% ish) and uses sugar

			=== Burke Gilliam ===
			CBB 192:

			Mid boil - chinook, strata, have nice complicated bitterness, Warrior has good citrus piney bitterness

			Hazies he does 5-10 IBUS beginning of boil cause it helps hops shine

			Idaho 7 and galaxy play well together, especially with mosaic. Too much Idaho 7 can be have a harsh bitterness

			W.pool do a 3:1 ratio citra to Idaho

			Citra and mosaic amplify each other and then when you add a touch of galaxy or Idaho it just gets boosted

			=== Burlington Beer ===
			CBB 360

	At Fiedens their lower abv beers finish at a higher gravity, higher abv finish at a lower		At Fiedens their lower abv beers finish at a higher gravity, higher abv finish at a lower
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	longer on the bine gets more dank		longer on the bine gets more dank

	[[NZ Hops]]		'''NZ Hops'''

	Uses Whirlpool for lower alpha ones ('''moutere, kohatu''' work well in whirlpool)		Uses Whirlpool for lower alpha ones ('''moutere, kohatu''' work well in whirlpool)
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	* w.pool - 22 lb		* w.pool - 22 lb
	* d. hop - 143 lb (18 g/L)

	~~== '''WCIPA roundtable''' ==~~
	~~WCIPA panel w/breakside (B) Firestone walker (F) and Lawson’s (L) hosted by Russian River (R) '''CBB''' '''309'''~~

	~~B- '''Galaxy''' needs a very short contact time (48 hours or left)~~

	~~B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5~~

	~~== '''Green bench, Burial, Russian River''' ==~~
	~~'''CBB 385'''~~

	~~Flowables 1kg for 15bbl. 1/2 oz to oz replaces 1lb/bbl dry hop. Purge the bottle after~~

	~~Russian River—mixes Pilsner and 2-row.~~. ~~or 2~~-~~row and wheat. Just Pilsner leaves it too flat~~ (~~8% ish~~) ~~and uses sugar~~		* d. hop - 143 lb (18 g/L)


	~~== '''Burke Gilliam''' ==~~
	~~'''CBB 192:'''~~

	~~Mid boil - chinook, strata, have nice complicated bitterness, Warrior has good citrus piney bitterness~~

	~~Hazies he does 5-10 IBUS beginning of boil cause it helps hops shine~~

	~~Idaho 7 and galaxy play well together, especially with mosaic. Too much Idaho 7 can be have a harsh bitterness~~

	~~W.pool do a 3:1 ratio citra to Idaho~~

	~~Citra and mosaic amplify each other and then when you add a touch of galaxy or Idaho it just gets boosted~~

NomoAdmin at 03:20, 23 August 2025

2025-08-23T03:20:57Z

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	Hard to be a Wizard		Hard to be a Wizard

	* 65-70% Simcoe		* 65-70% '''Simcoe'''
	* round out with Idaho 7		* round out with '''Idaho 7'''
	* touch of chinoook		* touch of '''chinoook'''

	early harvest simcoe and idaho 7 are fruitiest		early harvest simcoe and idaho 7 are fruitiest
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	WCIPA panel w/breakside (B) Firestone walker (F) and Lawson’s (L) hosted by Russian River (R) '''CBB''' '''309'''		WCIPA panel w/breakside (B) Firestone walker (F) and Lawson’s (L) hosted by Russian River (R) '''CBB''' '''309'''

	B- Galaxy needs a very short contact time (48 hours or left)		B- '''Galaxy''' needs a very short contact time (48 hours or left)

	B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5		B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5
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	Russian River—mixes Pilsner and 2-row.. or 2-row and wheat. Just Pilsner leaves it too flat (8% ish) and uses sugar		Russian River—mixes Pilsner and 2-row.. or 2-row and wheat. Just Pilsner leaves it too flat (8% ish) and uses sugar


			== '''Burke Gilliam''' ==
			'''CBB 192:'''

			Mid boil - chinook, strata, have nice complicated bitterness, Warrior has good citrus piney bitterness

			Hazies he does 5-10 IBUS beginning of boil cause it helps hops shine

			Idaho 7 and galaxy play well together, especially with mosaic. Too much Idaho 7 can be have a harsh bitterness

			W.pool do a 3:1 ratio citra to Idaho

			Citra and mosaic amplify each other and then when you add a touch of galaxy or Idaho it just gets boosted

NomoAdmin at 03:06, 23 August 2025

2025-08-23T03:06:31Z

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	longer on the bine gets more dank		longer on the bine gets more dank

	NZ Hops		[[NZ Hops]]

	Uses Whirlpool for lower alpha ones ('''moutere, kohatu''' work well in whirlpool)		Uses Whirlpool for lower alpha ones ('''moutere, kohatu''' work well in whirlpool)

NomoAdmin: /* Green bench, Burial, Russian River */

2025-07-17T05:22:13Z

Green bench, Burial, Russian River

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	B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5		B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5

	== Green bench, Burial, Russian River ==		== '''Green bench, Burial, Russian River''' ==
	'''CBB 385'''		'''CBB 385'''

NomoAdmin at 05:22, 17 July 2025

2025-07-17T05:22:02Z

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	** They dry hop at the end of the day and leave the blowoff open.		** They dry hop at the end of the day and leave the blowoff open.
	** The next day they put 15psi on the tank, let sit for 1 hour, then blow if off again, then they check from the top at 99% of the hops are in.		** The next day they put 15psi on the tank, let sit for 1 hour, then blow if off again, then they check from the top at 99% of the hops are in.

			== '''Burlington Beer''' ==
			'''CBB 360'''

			At Fiedens their lower abv beers finish at a higher gravity, higher abv finish at a lower

			Burlington - double IPAs finish higher, like 4 so you get the fluffiness, pale ale finished aroun 2.7-2.8. IPAs finishing at about 3.5

			don't drop temps in w.pool cause they can't

			Hard to be a Wizard

			* 65-70% Simcoe
			* round out with Idaho 7
			* touch of chinoook

			early harvest simcoe and idaho 7 are fruitiest

			longer on the bine gets more dank

			NZ Hops

			Uses Whirlpool for lower alpha ones ('''moutere, kohatu''' work well in whirlpool)

			Dry hop with higher alpha

			They don't do fermentation hops because after tests they realized they needed to harvest yeast and it made no difference

			=== dosage ===
			30bbl

			* w.pool - 22 lb
			* d. hop - 143 lb (18 g/L)

			== '''WCIPA roundtable''' ==
			WCIPA panel w/breakside (B) Firestone walker (F) and Lawson’s (L) hosted by Russian River (R) '''CBB''' '''309'''

			B- Galaxy needs a very short contact time (48 hours or left)

			B- sweet spot for dry hopping is when there’s about 30,000,000 cells still in suspension. It’s right after they harvest. It’s day 5

			== Green bench, Burial, Russian River ==
			'''CBB 385'''

			Flowables 1kg for 15bbl. 1/2 oz to oz replaces 1lb/bbl dry hop. Purge the bottle after

			Russian River—mixes Pilsner and 2-row.. or 2-row and wheat. Just Pilsner leaves it too flat (8% ish) and uses sugar

NomoAdmin: Created page with "== '''CBB 309 - Breakside, Firestone Walker, Lawson- west coast ipa''' == Matt - Firestone, Sean - Lawsons, Ben - Breakside Ben - 2.2-2.7 is their finishing gravity He puts a little Vienna or Munich just to '''push the hops from green hop flavor to fruit/over ripe fruit''' === when hop === * Matt - cryo for mid-ferm, sometimes t90 is too gritty for mid term * Sean - post fermentation * Ben - they leave open during dry hop to get hop creep finished early === do..."

2025-07-17T05:13:07Z

Created page with "== '''CBB 309 - Breakside, Firestone Walker, Lawson- west coast ipa''' == Matt - Firestone, Sean - Lawsons, Ben - Breakside Ben - 2.2-2.7 is their finishing gravity He puts a little Vienna or Munich just to '''push the hops from green hop flavor to fruit/over ripe fruit''' === when hop === * Matt - cryo for mid-ferm, sometimes t90 is too gritty for mid term * Sean - post fermentation * Ben - they leave open during dry hop to get hop creep finished early === do..."

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== '''CBB 309 - Breakside, Firestone Walker, Lawson- west coast ipa''' ==
Matt - Firestone, Sean - Lawsons, Ben - Breakside

Ben - 2.2-2.7 is their finishing gravity

He puts a little Vienna or Munich just to '''push the hops from green hop flavor to fruit/over ripe fruit'''

=== when hop ===

* Matt - cryo for mid-ferm, sometimes t90 is too gritty for mid term
* Sean - post fermentation
* Ben - they leave open during dry hop to get hop creep finished early

=== dosage ===

* Sean - 1-2lbs/bbl dry hop
* Ben - if they don’t dry hop twice then they felt like lots of hops don’t matter. Low dry hop amounts for each charge. Citra is always good for the second or late hop, for the top notes
* Firestone - el dorado is good “base” hop, NZ Is good for top note

Ben- doesn’t recirculate cause it picks up too many undesirables

== '''286 - WCIPA now!''' ==

Kelsey - N.Park, Vinnie - R. River, Evan- Green cheek

=== Malt ===

* Kelsey- when started used a lot of rahr with a dash of c-40. They’ve reworked it and now they use basically just a really pale Pilsner malt. Hops are the star. Weyerman extra pale is his fave
* Someone- weyerman has a nice crack to it when using their cheap mill and they get a great extract amount from it
* Malt COAs are made for 8 Plato beers so if you have a 16 Plato beer you need to double things like FAN amounts
* Vinnie still uses stuff that has more color, something about Rahr having a mix?
* Liquor:grist is important: thinner mash gives a drier beer
* Kelsey- goes softer with water last couple of years. Sulfur to chloride is 2:1 but total calcium is around 50. Total ppm is low, 100 sulfate, 50 chloride. His WCIPA finished around 2.5 Plato

=== Fermentation ===

* Vinnie - knockout at 60, ferment 62
* High ph is bad for hop creep cause low ph helps stop diacytl
* If 4.3 ph at dry hop they’ll lower it with phosphoric acid
* Try to finish around 4.4 (under 4.6)
* Sometimes (someone) does low ph to get low utilization to get more fullness from hops
* Sometimes low finishing gravity beers they finish a pitter higher ph for more body

=== Hops ===

* Have a grinder next to the scale so you can grind a small handful for smelling.
* Dump the cone 24 hours after knockout to help stop mercaptan
* Dump cone 1-3 days after dry hop. Helps with hop creep also
* Evan- There’s a hop Lilly pad that can form with dry hopping.
** They dry hop at the end of the day and leave the blowoff open.
** The next day they put 15psi on the tank, let sit for 1 hour, then blow if off again, then they check from the top at 99% of the hops are in.