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		<title>NomoAdmin at 05:40, 11 September 2025</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Reddit:  I have read using Sourvisiae on its own ends up producing too much lactic acid and heard pitching a small amount of traditional sacc. helps control the lactic acid production. If anyone has experience with how much traditional yeast to Sourvisiae I should be pitching. Saw a post a while back mention that Lallemand has a chart to assist but haven’t been able to get a response yet. It will be an amber base at about 14 Plato. Thanks for any help in advance!  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Reddit:  I have read using Sourvisiae on its own ends up producing too much lactic acid and heard pitching a small amount of traditional sacc. helps control the lactic acid production. If anyone has experience with how much traditional yeast to Sourvisiae I should be pitching. Saw a post a while back mention that Lallemand has a chart to assist but haven’t been able to get a response yet. It will be an amber base at about 14 Plato. Thanks for any help in advance!  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>NomoAdmin at 05:39, 11 September 2025</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Anecdotally we started cutting it at 10% by weight with 05. It still finished low 3.2pH. We’re up to about 20% and finishing low-mid 3.3’s. Our base finishes pretty dry, and I like it a little more aggressively sour (depending on the fruit) so this works for me. YMMV  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Anecdotally we started cutting it at 10% by weight with 05. It still finished low 3.2pH. We’re up to about 20% and finishing low-mid 3.3’s. Our base finishes pretty dry, and I like it a little more aggressively sour (depending on the fruit) so this works for me. YMMV  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Probrewer forum: We have a culture we bought a year ago still going. For 9 bbls in the kettle we pitch 3 to 5 gallons depending on how much we want to drop the ph. We&amp;#039;re seeing a drop to a ph of 3.25 to 3.5 overnight. We harvest off the bottom of the kettle into a corny keg. It sits for a month in the walkin between kettle sours routinely. We haven&amp;#039;t noticed any drift yet. We do not feed it or decant. We do give it a good shake before pitching and always purge the vessel be4 and after harvest. Also a flow meter hooked up to a co2 line works wonders for trickling co2 into the kettle overnight. Lastly, when cooling down the wort before pitching we started running co2 through our oxygen stone.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Probrewer forum: We have a culture we bought a year ago still going. For 9 bbls in the kettle we pitch 3 to 5 gallons depending on how much we want to drop the ph. We&amp;#039;re seeing a drop to a ph of 3.25 to 3.5 overnight. We harvest off the bottom of the kettle into a corny keg. It sits for a month in the walkin between kettle sours routinely. We haven&amp;#039;t noticed any drift yet. We do not feed it or decant. We do give it a good shake before pitching and always purge the vessel be4 and after harvest. Also a flow meter hooked up to a co2 line works wonders for trickling co2 into the kettle overnight. Lastly, when cooling down the wort before pitching we started running co2 through our oxygen stone.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I attach a short sanitized hose from the dump valve on the kettle into a purged corny keg once we reach our desired ph. I just put the hose right in the top of the corny and fill from the bottom. Dump a little off before collecting to make sure you are harvesting what was in the kettle and not what was in the piping. Purge a few more times after putting the lid on and store.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I attach a short sanitized hose from the dump valve on the kettle into a purged corny keg once we reach our desired ph. I just put the hose right in the top of the corny and fill from the bottom. Dump a little off before collecting to make sure you are harvesting what was in the kettle and not what was in the piping. Purge a few more times after putting the lid on and store.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Herbe Yogurt uses Helveticus bacteria&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Herbe Yogurt uses Helveticus bacteria&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/del&gt;Philly Sour Co-Pitch&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;/del&gt;==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Philly Sour Co-Pitch ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>NomoAdmin: Created page with &quot;== &#039;&#039;&#039;Sourvisiae&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Blending&#039;&#039;&#039; == Reddit:  I have read using Sourvisiae on its own ends up producing too much lactic acid and heard pitching a small amount of traditional sacc. helps control the lactic acid production. If anyone has experience with how much traditional yeast to Sourvisiae I should be pitching. Saw a post a while back mention that Lallemand has a chart to assist but haven’t been able to get a response yet. It will be an amber base at about 14 Plato....&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;== &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sourvisiae&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Blending&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; == Reddit:  I have read using Sourvisiae on its own ends up producing too much lactic acid and heard pitching a small amount of traditional sacc. helps control the lactic acid production. If anyone has experience with how much traditional yeast to Sourvisiae I should be pitching. Saw a post a while back mention that Lallemand has a chart to assist but haven’t been able to get a response yet. It will be an amber base at about 14 Plato....&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sourvisiae&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Blending&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; ==&lt;br /&gt;
Reddit:  I have read using Sourvisiae on its own ends up producing too much lactic acid and heard pitching a small amount of traditional sacc. helps control the lactic acid production. If anyone has experience with how much traditional yeast to Sourvisiae I should be pitching. Saw a post a while back mention that Lallemand has a chart to assist but haven’t been able to get a response yet. It will be an amber base at about 14 Plato. Thanks for any help in advance! &lt;br /&gt;
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u/Oregonbrewer - We would do a 50/50 blend of SV and US-05 for fruited sour bases. Pitch 05 24 hours after the SV, pH would stop around 3.35-3.4&lt;br /&gt;
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Anecdotally we started cutting it at 10% by weight with 05. It still finished low 3.2pH. We’re up to about 20% and finishing low-mid 3.3’s. Our base finishes pretty dry, and I like it a little more aggressively sour (depending on the fruit) so this works for me. YMMV &lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Storing Lacto&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; ==&lt;br /&gt;
Probrewer forum: We have a culture we bought a year ago still going. For 9 bbls in the kettle we pitch 3 to 5 gallons depending on how much we want to drop the ph. We&amp;#039;re seeing a drop to a ph of 3.25 to 3.5 overnight. We harvest off the bottom of the kettle into a corny keg. It sits for a month in the walkin between kettle sours routinely. We haven&amp;#039;t noticed any drift yet. We do not feed it or decant. We do give it a good shake before pitching and always purge the vessel be4 and after harvest. Also a flow meter hooked up to a co2 line works wonders for trickling co2 into the kettle overnight. Lastly, when cooling down the wort before pitching we started running co2 through our oxygen stone.&lt;br /&gt;
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I attach a short sanitized hose from the dump valve on the kettle into a purged corny keg once we reach our desired ph. I just put the hose right in the top of the corny and fill from the bottom. Dump a little off before collecting to make sure you are harvesting what was in the kettle and not what was in the piping. Purge a few more times after putting the lid on and store. &lt;br /&gt;
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