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			== Notes ==
			* Fruity. test

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	* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.		* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.

	== From Thiols: Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes ==		== From [[Thiols#<u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>\|Thiols: <u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>]] ==
	* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:		* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:
	* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol		* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol

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	~~== Notes ==~~
	* Fruity. test

	== From [[Hazy IPA#Hops misc\|Hazy IPA: Hops misc]] ==		== From [[Hazy IPA#Hops misc\|Hazy IPA: Hops misc]] ==
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	* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.		* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.

	== From ~~[[Thiols#<u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>\|~~Thiols: ~~<u>~~Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes~~</u>]]~~ ==		== From Thiols: Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes ==
	* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:		* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:
	* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol		* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol
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			== Notes ==
			* Fruity. test

	== From [[Hazy IPA#Hops misc\|Hazy IPA: Hops misc]] ==		== From [[Hazy IPA#Hops misc\|Hazy IPA: Hops misc]] ==
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	* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.		* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.

	== From Thiols: <u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u> ==		== From [[Thiols#<u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>\|Thiols: <u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>]] ==
	* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:		* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:
	* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol		* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol
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	* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.		* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.

	== From ~~[[Thiols#<u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>\|~~Thiols: <u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>]] ==		== From Thiols: <u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u> ==
	* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:		* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:
	* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol		* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol

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	''Notes on '''Nelson Sauvin''' gathered automatically from across the wiki. Each ~~section~~ links back to ~~its source page~~.''		''Notes on '''Nelson Sauvin''' gathered automatically from across the wiki. Each heading links back to the exact section it came from.''

	== From [[Hazy IPA]] ==		== From [[Hazy IPA#Hops misc\|Hazy IPA: Hops misc]] ==
	* Evan - 165 coolpool. Don’t go over '''1lb/bbl in w.pool'''		* Evan - 165 coolpool. Don’t go over '''1lb/bbl in w.pool'''
	* Kelsey - also '''1lb/bbl''' due to constrictions		* Kelsey - also '''1lb/bbl''' due to constrictions
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	* Kelsey - they do '''“dip hop” with flowables'''. But ''<u>be careful</u>'' cause you have a stratified hot layer on top. Through experiments they found that as soon as the wort hits the manway (you can feel the heat) they bump for 30 seconds with 20psi and that mixes everything well (3/4-1bbl of hot out of 15bbl batch).		* Kelsey - they do '''“dip hop” with flowables'''. But ''<u>be careful</u>'' cause you have a stratified hot layer on top. Through experiments they found that as soon as the wort hits the manway (you can feel the heat) they bump for 30 seconds with 20psi and that mixes everything well (3/4-1bbl of hot out of 15bbl batch).
	* 75% '''[[Citra\|citra]]''' 25% '''Nelson''' is good		* 75% '''[[Citra\|citra]]''' 25% '''Nelson''' is good

	~~== From [[Hop combos]] ==~~
	* CBB Hazy now''':''' 75% '''[[Citra\|citra]]''' 25% '''Nelson''' is good
	* '''[[Sorachi Ace\|Sorachi]] ace and Nelson''' combo, I don’t recall where that combo was recommended
	* '''Nelson/[[Riwaka]]/[[Mosaic]]/[[Simcoe]] cryo''' Was a fun one
	* Mosaic simcoe only in w.pool
	* Dry hop was even split (4.4lb/bbl so 1.2lb/bbl each)
	* '''Hoppy Lager - R:''' We’ve done the same base hoppy lager a few times and switched up the hop combos. Favorite so far was '''Mandarina/Nelson/[[Nectaron]]'''. All 3 in the dry hop. Nelson/Necataron at a 170 degree whirlpool.
	* Used it with '''[[Mosaic]], [[Talus]], Nelson''' and got a real tropical coconut vibe.
	* Used it with '''Kohatu and [[Wai-iti]]''' and it's all pineapple.

	~~== From [[Hops]] ==~~
	* Hops dry hopped at a lower ph have a generic hoppines but using more potent hops like Nelson or [[Riwaka\|riwaka]] can stand up to it more
	* Dry hop sub 40 degrees F (they started warmer but studies show warmer pulls out stuff like myrcene)
	* [[Riwaka]] + [[Rakau]] (50/50)
	* [[Citra]] + Nelson

	== From [[Malt Bills]] ==		== From [[Malt Bills]] ==
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	* PNW doesnt pop as much with gambrinus		* PNW doesnt pop as much with gambrinus

	== From [[~~Podcasts~~: ~~Oregon~~]] ==		== From [[Hops#CBB 270 - sapwood\|Hops: CBB 270 - sapwood]] ==
	* ~~'''~~[[~~Simcoe~~]]~~''' and '''Krush''' as base~~		* Hops dry hopped at a lower ph have a generic hoppines but using more potent hops like Nelson or [[Riwaka\|riwaka]] can stand up to it more
	** '''Krush''': works best at '''20% or less''', adds some woody notes		* Dry hop sub 40 degrees F (they started warmer but studies show warmer pulls out stuff like myrcene)
	** Can be overdone—best used in a mix
	* '''[[~~Nectaron~~]]~~''' and '''Nelson''' as top notes~~		== From [[Hops#Favorite hop combos:\|Hops: Favorite hop combos:]] ==
	* ~~'''A little~~ [[~~Mosaic~~]]~~''' to tie it together~~		* [[Riwaka]] + [[Rakau]] (50/50)
	* NZ hops (Nectaron, Nelson): '''cool-pooled and dry-hopped'''		* [[Citra]] + Nelson
	* '''Mosaic''' and '''Simcoe''' help prevent vegetal character
	* Uses '''regular Nelson''', no special lots
	* '''[[~~Mosaic~~]]~~''' to tie it together~~
	* ~~'''Krush'''~~
	* Top note: '''[[~~Strata~~]]~~'''~~ + ~~'''~~Nelson ~~Kief''' from Freestyle~~

	== From [[Thiols]] ==		== From [[Thiols#Contains No Juice Hazy IIPA\|Thiols: Contains No Juice Hazy IIPA]] ==
	* 2-Row Malt for Base, 25% all wheat, incl. high protein red wheat from Mecca Grade. Mash Hopping with US [[Cascade]] Hops		* 2-Row Malt for Base, 25% all wheat, incl. high protein red wheat from Mecca Grade. Mash Hopping with US [[Cascade]] Hops
	* Whirlpool at 175, 2 Kg of [[Idaho 7]] Full Spectrum Plasma & 0.5 lbs. / bbl [[Simcoe]]		* Whirlpool at 175, 2 Kg of [[Idaho 7]] Full Spectrum Plasma & 0.5 lbs. / bbl [[Simcoe]]
	* Ferment with Tropics yeast at 68 deg.		* Ferment with Tropics yeast at 68 deg.
	* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.		* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.

			== From [[Thiols#<u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>\|Thiols: <u>Incorporating Thiols & Monoterpenes in Recipes</u>]] ==
	* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:		* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:
	* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol		* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol
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	* Establish Odor Activity Values for various compounds, then determine how to get there with hops.		* Establish Odor Activity Values for various compounds, then determine how to get there with hops.

	== From [[West Coast Pilsner]] ==		== From [[Hop combos#US\|Hop combos: US]] ==
			* CBB Hazy now''':''' 75% '''[[Citra\|citra]]''' 25% '''Nelson''' is good

			== From [[Hop combos#NZ\|Hop combos: NZ]] ==
			* '''[[Sorachi Ace\|Sorachi]] ace and Nelson''' combo, I don’t recall where that combo was recommended
			* '''Nelson/[[Riwaka]]/[[Mosaic]]/[[Simcoe]] cryo''' Was a fun one
			* Mosaic simcoe only in w.pool
			* Dry hop was even split (4.4lb/bbl so 1.2lb/bbl each)
			* '''Hoppy Lager - R:''' We’ve done the same base hoppy lager a few times and switched up the hop combos. Favorite so far was '''Mandarina/Nelson/[[Nectaron]]'''. All 3 in the dry hop. Nelson/Necataron at a 170 degree whirlpool.
			* Used it with '''[[Mosaic]], [[Talus]], Nelson''' and got a real tropical coconut vibe.
			* Used it with '''Kohatu and [[Wai-iti]]''' and it's all pineapple.

			== From [[West Coast Pilsner#hops\|West Coast Pilsner: hops]] ==
	* Nick- 1-1.5 lbs/bbl dry hop (doesn’t over saturate)ops: sam- start with noble in the boil, get that traditional German flavor as a bottom layer. '''Mandarin and melon''' they really like (new German hops) [[Spalt\|spalt]] select in boil'''. [[Simcoe]]''' is good on these beers, always tries to get some of that. And '''[[Citra\|citra]]''' is good with lager ferms. He’s a little more careful with [[Mosaic\|mosaic]]. Their core wcpils is '''Simcoe''' hot side, dry hop with '''mosaic/nelson'''. They save the nobles for Italian Pilsners		* Nick- 1-1.5 lbs/bbl dry hop (doesn’t over saturate)ops: sam- start with noble in the boil, get that traditional German flavor as a bottom layer. '''Mandarin and melon''' they really like (new German hops) [[Spalt\|spalt]] select in boil'''. [[Simcoe]]''' is good on these beers, always tries to get some of that. And '''[[Citra\|citra]]''' is good with lager ferms. He’s a little more careful with [[Mosaic\|mosaic]]. Their core wcpils is '''Simcoe''' hot side, dry hop with '''mosaic/nelson'''. They save the nobles for Italian Pilsners
	* Bob - low alpha hops on hot side, recently noble heritage but US grown, instead of 1lb of high alpha they use 3lb low alpha cause that high vegetal matter gives it a little weight and structure. Cold side- lager kicks more sulfur for sure. Can play well or not. Bright tropical high tone citrus zest hops play well with sulfur; '''[[Citra\|citra]], [[Mosaic\|mosaic]], Nelson'''. Maybe those old school hops help build thiol stuff that works well with the sulfur in the lager yeast. They do 69/30/10 and whirlpool to build layers of texture. The varietals they like are Adina, super [[Saaz\|saaz]] f/michigan, they like floral delicate citrus and not so much herbal, Crosby [[Sterling\|sterling]],		* Bob - low alpha hops on hot side, recently noble heritage but US grown, instead of 1lb of high alpha they use 3lb low alpha cause that high vegetal matter gives it a little weight and structure. Cold side- lager kicks more sulfur for sure. Can play well or not. Bright tropical high tone citrus zest hops play well with sulfur; '''[[Citra\|citra]], [[Mosaic\|mosaic]], Nelson'''. Maybe those old school hops help build thiol stuff that works well with the sulfur in the lager yeast. They do 69/30/10 and whirlpool to build layers of texture. The varietals they like are Adina, super [[Saaz\|saaz]] f/michigan, they like floral delicate citrus and not so much herbal, Crosby [[Sterling\|sterling]],

			== From [[Podcasts: Oregon#Hops\|Podcasts: Oregon: Hops]] ==
			* '''[[Simcoe]]''' and '''Krush''' as base
			** '''Krush''': works best at '''20% or less''', adds some woody notes
			** Can be overdone—best used in a mix
			* '''[[Nectaron]]''' and '''Nelson''' as top notes
			* '''A little [[Mosaic]]''' to tie it together
			* NZ hops (Nectaron, Nelson): '''cool-pooled and dry-hopped'''
			* '''Mosaic''' and '''Simcoe''' help prevent vegetal character
			* Uses '''regular Nelson''', no special lots

			== From [[Podcasts: Oregon#Dry Hop\|Podcasts: Oregon: Dry Hop]] ==
			* '''[[Mosaic]]''' to tie it together
			* '''Krush'''
			* Top note: '''[[Strata]]''' + '''Nelson Kief''' from Freestyle

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''Notes on '''Nelson Sauvin''' gathered automatically from across the wiki. Each section links back to its source page.''

== From [[Hazy IPA]] ==
* Evan - 165 coolpool. Don’t go over '''1lb/bbl in w.pool'''
* Kelsey - also '''1lb/bbl''' due to constrictions
* All of them try to do at '''10ibu bittering charge'''
* Kelsey - they do '''“dip hop” with flowables'''. But ''<u>be careful</u>'' cause you have a stratified hot layer on top. Through experiments they found that as soon as the wort hits the manway (you can feel the heat) they bump for 30 seconds with 20psi and that mixes everything well (3/4-1bbl of hot out of 15bbl batch).
* 75% '''[[Citra|citra]]''' 25% '''Nelson''' is good

== From [[Hop combos]] ==
* CBB Hazy now''':''' 75% '''[[Citra|citra]]''' 25% '''Nelson''' is good
* '''[[Sorachi Ace|Sorachi]] ace and Nelson''' combo, I don’t recall where that combo was recommended
* '''Nelson/[[Riwaka]]/[[Mosaic]]/[[Simcoe]] cryo''' Was a fun one
* Mosaic simcoe only in w.pool
* Dry hop was even split (4.4lb/bbl so 1.2lb/bbl each)
* '''Hoppy Lager - R:''' We’ve done the same base hoppy lager a few times and switched up the hop combos. Favorite so far was '''Mandarina/Nelson/[[Nectaron]]'''. All 3 in the dry hop. Nelson/Necataron at a 170 degree whirlpool.
* Used it with '''[[Mosaic]], [[Talus]], Nelson''' and got a real tropical coconut vibe.
* Used it with '''Kohatu and [[Wai-iti]]''' and it's all pineapple.

== From [[Hops]] ==
* Hops dry hopped at a lower ph have a generic hoppines but using more potent hops like Nelson or [[Riwaka|riwaka]] can stand up to it more
* Dry hop sub 40 degrees F (they started warmer but studies show warmer pulls out stuff like myrcene)
* [[Riwaka]] + [[Rakau]] (50/50)
* [[Citra]] + Nelson

== From [[Malt Bills]] ==
* Uses a mix of Pilsners
* Likes gambrinus Pilsner cause it’s so lean
* Some malts and hops match well. Nelson matches gambrinus cause it’s so lean, but it’s too lean for competition beers (they’ve gotten knocked for it). [[NZ hops]] match it so well
* Rahr is good cause has more “shoulders”
* PNW doesnt pop as much with gambrinus

== From [[Podcasts: Oregon]] ==
* '''[[Simcoe]]''' and '''Krush''' as base
** '''Krush''': works best at '''20% or less''', adds some woody notes
** Can be overdone—best used in a mix
* '''[[Nectaron]]''' and '''Nelson''' as top notes
* '''A little [[Mosaic]]''' to tie it together
* NZ hops (Nectaron, Nelson): '''cool-pooled and dry-hopped'''
* '''Mosaic''' and '''Simcoe''' help prevent vegetal character
* Uses '''regular Nelson''', no special lots
* '''[[Mosaic]]''' to tie it together
* '''Krush'''
* Top note: '''[[Strata]]''' + '''Nelson Kief''' from Freestyle

== From [[Thiols]] ==
* 2-Row Malt for Base, 25% all wheat, incl. high protein red wheat from Mecca Grade. Mash Hopping with US [[Cascade]] Hops
* Whirlpool at 175, 2 Kg of [[Idaho 7]] Full Spectrum Plasma & 0.5 lbs. / bbl [[Simcoe]]
* Ferment with Tropics yeast at 68 deg.
* Dry Hop 5 lbs / bbl with blend of [[Mosaic]], [[Citra]] Cryo, Waimea & Nelson hops.
* Results from VB show us that Thiols are only part of the story. Must take into account:
* Presence of Monoterpene Alcohols: Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol
* Ester compounds found in hops like 2MIB
* Knowing Free Thiols & Monoterpene Alcohol Concentrations, a brewer can extrapolate when planning dry hops.
* 1 Kg T90 Nelson hops / bbl = 1300 ng/L of potential 3S4MP if 100% extraction occurs.
* 1 Kg T90 [[Sabro]] Cryo hops / bbl = 497.84 ppm of potential Geraniol if 100% extraction occurs.
* Thinking about how much ”special sauce” could be going into your DH, rather than a blind lbs / bbl benchmark.
* Establish Odor Activity Values for various compounds, then determine how to get there with hops.

== From [[West Coast Pilsner]] ==
* Nick- 1-1.5 lbs/bbl dry hop (doesn’t over saturate)ops: sam- start with noble in the boil, get that traditional German flavor as a bottom layer. '''Mandarin and melon''' they really like (new German hops) [[Spalt|spalt]] select in boil'''. [[Simcoe]]''' is good on these beers, always tries to get some of that. And '''[[Citra|citra]]''' is good with lager ferms. He’s a little more careful with [[Mosaic|mosaic]]. Their core wcpils is '''Simcoe''' hot side, dry hop with '''mosaic/nelson'''. They save the nobles for Italian Pilsners
* Bob - low alpha hops on hot side, recently noble heritage but US grown, instead of 1lb of high alpha they use 3lb low alpha cause that high vegetal matter gives it a little weight and structure. Cold side- lager kicks more sulfur for sure. Can play well or not. Bright tropical high tone citrus zest hops play well with sulfur; '''[[Citra|citra]], [[Mosaic|mosaic]], Nelson'''. Maybe those old school hops help build thiol stuff that works well with the sulfur in the lager yeast. They do 69/30/10 and whirlpool to build layers of texture. The varietals they like are Adina, super [[Saaz|saaz]] f/michigan, they like floral delicate citrus and not so much herbal, Crosby [[Sterling|sterling]],

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